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Adobe to buy Macromedia in $3 billion stock deal

Who's gonna stay: GoLive or Dreamweaver?

Adobe buys Macromedia: what will happen to GoLive and Dreamweaver?

Here's a boring stories on it: Marketwatch, Silicon Republic, Mac Daily News. They all say the same thing. "blah blah blah." We want real answers to real questions. So here you go:

GoLive vs. Dreamweaver
So what's gonna stay: Adobe GoLive or Macromedia DreamWeaver? Adobe really loves their GoLive, so I can see them keeping it. To eliminate GoLive certainly would take some guts on Adobe's part to admit that Dreamweaver is more popular. I'm betting that they will keep it GoLive, but will incorporate some DreamWeaver engine stuff and market the combined product as GoLive now with more power than ever.

Actually, both "GoLive" and "Dreamweaver" are odd names. They should get a completely new name. But they might combine them:
ï DreamLive
ï GoWeaver
ï LiveWeaver
ï GoDream

Flash vs. uh nothing
The only thing that will stay from MacroMedia under its original brand will be Flash. But will it become Adobe Flash CS MX 2005?

Illustrator vs. Freehand
Freehand deserves to die. Many years ago.

Imageready vs. Fireworks
Who has even used Fireworks? Keep it to July 4th. Imageready for the rest of the year.

Photoshop vs. uh nothing
Obvious.


Posted by: spudart on Apr 18, 05 | 8:23 am  |   [5001] Hits  |   permalink

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I hope Adobe keeps it GoLive, because Dreamweaver users can be so elitist. The products are pratically the same, but Dreamweavers are all "oh no! i can't leave my baby!" Deal with it! hahaha!

Posted by: spudart on Apr 18, 05 | 8:46 am


what is with you and your accusations of elitism? so far in the past few days i've been accused of being an anti-McD's elitist, and now a Dreamweaver elitist. heck yes! i'm both. down with McD's, up with Dreamweaver.

i am concerned about the anti-competition nature of this merger. what's next? Adobe Quark? i think GoLive and Dreamweaver are good competitive products, because they are both GOOD products. one of them shouldn't be lost because of a merger. now Microsoft Frontpage, THAT should be killed. let's get ridda that! someone merge THAT thing outta here!

Posted by: laura on Apr 18, 05 | 8:57 am


Dreamweaver is better than GoLive. yes it is!

Posted by: laura on Apr 18, 05 | 8:59 am


Please list the reasons why dreamweaver is better than GoLive.

Posted by: spudart on Apr 18, 05 | 9:03 am


that's my point. they are really equally GOOD, so it's mainly what you ended up learning at the beginning, and are comfortable with. what you are used to. i'm used to Dreamweaver. it works for me. i just don't think that competitive advances should be squelched because of a merger between the two products. because they are the top two products in the web authoring field, they are always trying to outdo each other, and are getting better all the time. if we merge these two, that drive to improve will be over. what will DreamLive be competing with then? Frontpage? yuck, no real competition there. obviously, Adobe would like to see less competition for its products, but on a consumer level we will only be hurt by this.

Posted by: laura on Apr 18, 05 | 9:17 am


i like your hybred names
godream and dreamlive
very creative.

Posted by: lwells on Apr 18, 05 | 12:18 pm


This guy provides an argument that you better not base your career on flash. http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2005/04/18/Adobe-Macromedia

Posted by: spudart on Apr 19, 05 | 8:15 am


at tidbits is a good explanation why dreamweaver is more popular than golive:
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Macromedia's combination of scripting and interactivity led it to dominance in the Web-based player world. Shockwave and Flash have become de facto standards for vector-based interactive presentations. There's just not a widely accepted number 2 despite many efforts.

Likewise, Macromedia's Dreamweaver's integration of Cold Fusion and ASP tied into database access cemented its ownership of the graphical Web site market. Despite I and TidBITS managing editor Jeff Carlson having written three editions of a book on GoLive, it's easy to see that the scripting and database support drove Dreamweaver's adoption over Adobe GoLive.
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and another interesting point:
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And now we reach the end of the path. Adobe's competitors now aren't Quark or Viewpoint (formerly Metacreations and other names before that). Their competitors are Apple and Microsoft. While they strive to release software that works on both platforms, they're being eaten at the top by Apple's professional video tools and the bottom by Microsoft's and Apple's home layout and photo tools.

Posted by: spudart on Apr 19, 05 | 8:26 am


According to 2:48am, back in the early 90s Aldus was selling Freehand. Then Adobe acquired Aldus... thus making Adobe the owner of Freehand. Adobe sold Freehand to MacroMedia.

Now that Adobe owns Macromedia, maybe they will sell it to another company.

Posted by: spudart on Apr 19, 05 | 8:27 am


Aldus got its name from Aldus Manutius, a big-cheese guy in the field of typography. he produced the first italics! his press was called the Aldine Press. i live on Aldine Ave. perhaps i am Aldus Manutius reincarnated.

Posted by: laura on Apr 19, 05 | 9:24 am


I believe Blue Cross Blue Shield's corporate font is Aldine401BT.

Posted by: unlikelymoose.com on Apr 19, 05 | 10:52 am


Posted by: laura on Apr 23, 05 | 8:29 am


For certain tasks, such as laying out a collage or designing an interface for software, Fireworks is superior to photoshop. The most recent version of Photoshop CS2 has aped many of the features of fireworks for these tasks, albeit poorly, so I would prefer to see fireworks continue to exist. It certainly will on my hard-drive. Photoshop is the clear leader for digital photo manipulation, but the vast majority of my production work involves building interfaces for software and websites...buttons, windows, splash screens etc.

Freehand is an excellent program for laying out documents that involve more than one page, without the complication and clutter of programs like Quark and Indesign. It is superior to Illustrator in this and many other regards, and again it will remain in my tool suite.

Dreamweaver is the de-facto standard for building web-applications. The only thing that might replace it one day in the distant future is Flash or something like it, that has more flexibilty with respect to interface design and data driven animation capability. Go live pages are created by graphic designers, then totally rebuilt by the actual webmasters in dreamweaver. Thats the fact.

Authorware will always have a niche in the e-learning space, which is unfortunate because it would have been a much better paradigm for flash to head towards with respect to programming. (flow environment instead of frame based) But this is a vhs vs beta case.

Director is doomed to die a slow death thanks to flash. It is a good idea for any director folks out there to learn actionscript.

my two cents.



Posted by: ryan on May 20, 05 | 6:09 am


Aldus never owned FreeHand they had a marketing contract with the creators of FreeHand, acompany called Altsys. When Aldus was sold to Adobe, Altsys took Adobe to court because they had a non-compete clause in their contract with Aldus. Adobe having Illustrator made them a competitor and the marketing relationship was determined null and void for Adobe. Altsys then merged with Macromedia. I should know, I worked at Altsys and then with Macromedia. FreeHand was a great product, too bad it stopped being a priority for Macromedia and lost it's competitive edge.

Posted by: cassandra Estes on Sep 14, 05 | 11:15 am


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