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Ozzie Guillen versus Shawon Dunston

Shawon Dunston of the Chicago Cubs and Ozzie Guillen of the Chicago White Sox both started their major league careers at shortshop in 1985. Both were mainstays at their position in Chicago for over 10 years.

Who was better Shawon Dunston or Ozzie Guillen? Let's look at their stats:

 CareerGABRH2B3BHRRBIBBIBBSO
Shawon Dunston18 Years1,8145,9277361,59729262150668203441,000
Ozzie Guillen16 Years1,9936,6867731,764275692861923925511
AB/RAB/HAB/2BAB/3BAB/HRAB/RBIAB/BBAB/IBBAB/SO
Shawon Dunston: Averages8.13.720.395.639.58.929.2134.75.9
Ozzie Guillen: Averages8.63.824.396.9238.810.828.0267.413.1

 GSSHSFHBPGIDPSBCSSB%ErrorsAVGOBPSLG
Shawon Dunston55649419821282.721215.269.296.416
Ozzie Guillen1141607114169108.610222.264.287.338

(the bold items are the one who has the better stats)
The main stat that sticks out most to me is that Shawon beats out Ozzie in career batting average, on-base average, and slugging percentage. Shawon has more homeruns, but Ozzie has fewer strikeouts. But Shawon has more homeruns.

One might point out that Ozzie has more runs, triples and hits. But let's compare the averages. Who has the better averages in each category?

Shawon:
• Runs
• Hits
• Doubles
• Triples
• RBI
• Intentional Walks
• Hit by Pitch
• Ground into double plays
• Stolen Bases
• Caught Stealing

Ozzie:
• Walks
• Strikeouts
• Sacrifice Hits
• Sacrifice Flies

TEN categories for Shawon. Just four for Ozzie. Hit by pitch should count, because it shows how willing you are willing to sacrifice yourself to get on base. Guillen had been hit by a pitch seven times? Surely those were times that Guillen couldn't get out of the way.

Oh, don't even try to pull fielding over on Shawon either. Who has less errors? Dunston. Who has the better arm, Shawon or Ozzie? Please. Shawon Dunston was said to have the fastest arm in baseball--including all the pitchers.


Posted by: spudart on Feb 25, 06 | 6:00 am  |   [8822] Hits  |   permalink

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shawon all the way! the stats don't lie. Plus, Shawon had the Shawon-o-meter. Ozzie didn't have anything like that. The Shawon-o-meter rulz!

Posted by: unlikelymoose.com on Feb 27, 06 | 8:45 am


Maybe we should make Shawon the new Cubs manager so he can continue to kick Ozzie's butt.

Posted by: Mark on Feb 27, 06 | 10:16 am


Shawon is one step closer to becoming a manager one day. This spring training, he will be a guest coach for the Cubs. "Former Cubs Ferguson Jenkins, Shawon Dunston and Ryne Sandberg will be among the guest coaches in camp this spring."
http://chicagocubs.barebaseball.com/2006/02/notes-maddux-first-on-mound-at-camp.html

Posted by: spudart on Feb 27, 06 | 10:55 am


Shawon was my idol as a young teenager....I wore his number throughout little league and beyond...and oh yeah, he DID have the greatest arm in baseball, undeniably. Also, i think I remember him pitching the 9th in a game way back when...can anyone verify that?

Posted by: Kevin on May 10, 06 | 9:14 am


As a Cubs fan I would have even thought Ozzie had the better numbers (especially in errors!) If Ozzie can manage a club to the title maybe the Cubs should bring back Shawon to skipper the club

Posted by: Clay on Nov 19, 06 | 7:36 pm


Shawon was my favorite Cubs player growing up - tried to imitate him on the field - i think that is why i played SS

Posted by: sean on Mar 27, 08 | 2:43 pm


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